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I am trying to understand Prolog lists, and how values are 'returned' / instantiated at the end of a recursive function.



I am looking at this simple example:



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).
val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) :-
val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R).


If I call val_and_remainder(X, [1,2,3], R). then I will get the following outputs:



X = 1, R = [2,3]; 
X = 2, R = [1,3];
X = 3, R = [1,2];
false.


But I am confused as to why in the base case (val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).) Xs has to appear as it does.



If I was to call val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). then it seems to me as though it would run through the program as:



% Initial call
val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

% Hits base case
val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


If the above run through is correct then how does it get the correct value for R? As in the above case the value of R should be R = [1,3].










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    Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:22













  • @GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 18:29











  • The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:51











  • My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:55











  • Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:57
















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I am trying to understand Prolog lists, and how values are 'returned' / instantiated at the end of a recursive function.



I am looking at this simple example:



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).
val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) :-
val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R).


If I call val_and_remainder(X, [1,2,3], R). then I will get the following outputs:



X = 1, R = [2,3]; 
X = 2, R = [1,3];
X = 3, R = [1,2];
false.


But I am confused as to why in the base case (val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).) Xs has to appear as it does.



If I was to call val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). then it seems to me as though it would run through the program as:



% Initial call
val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

% Hits base case
val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


If the above run through is correct then how does it get the correct value for R? As in the above case the value of R should be R = [1,3].










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    Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:22













  • @GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 18:29











  • The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:51











  • My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:55











  • Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:57














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I am trying to understand Prolog lists, and how values are 'returned' / instantiated at the end of a recursive function.



I am looking at this simple example:



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).
val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) :-
val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R).


If I call val_and_remainder(X, [1,2,3], R). then I will get the following outputs:



X = 1, R = [2,3]; 
X = 2, R = [1,3];
X = 3, R = [1,2];
false.


But I am confused as to why in the base case (val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).) Xs has to appear as it does.



If I was to call val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). then it seems to me as though it would run through the program as:



% Initial call
val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

% Hits base case
val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


If the above run through is correct then how does it get the correct value for R? As in the above case the value of R should be R = [1,3].










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I am trying to understand Prolog lists, and how values are 'returned' / instantiated at the end of a recursive function.



I am looking at this simple example:



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).
val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) :-
val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R).


If I call val_and_remainder(X, [1,2,3], R). then I will get the following outputs:



X = 1, R = [2,3]; 
X = 2, R = [1,3];
X = 3, R = [1,2];
false.


But I am confused as to why in the base case (val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).) Xs has to appear as it does.



If I was to call val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). then it seems to me as though it would run through the program as:



% Initial call
val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

% Hits base case
val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


If the above run through is correct then how does it get the correct value for R? As in the above case the value of R should be R = [1,3].







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    Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:22













  • @GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 18:29











  • The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:51











  • My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:55











  • Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:57














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    Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:22













  • @GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 18:29











  • The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:51











  • My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:55











  • Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

    – Guy Coder
    Jan 5 at 18:57








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Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:22







Then how would Xs unify with R? And more importantly, how does R get a value for the result?

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:22















@GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

– Laa
Jan 5 at 18:29





@GuyCoder Please see the updated question (basically the question you asked me, I don't understand it).

– Laa
Jan 5 at 18:29













The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:51





The example predicate you gave in the question I would not consider a good candidate for learning about unification and list. A better example would be append/3.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:51













My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:55





My question is basicly asking you, how does Prolog put a value into the variable R to return? It doesn't. The answer is returned in the third position which is Xs. When Xs is unified with a value, then the third positiong being Xs will hold the result. When that is then unified with the calling predicate the third position which is unbound will unify with the value of Xs. Maybe this answer might help.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:55













Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:57





Do you understand unification? Also do you understand backward-chaining? If not you need to understand those first. If someone were to post those as questions on StackOveflow and you could not answer them with confidence, then you need to study them more.

– Guy Coder
Jan 5 at 18:57












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In Prolog, you need to think of predicates not as functions as you would normally in other languages. Predicates describe relationships which might include arguments that help define that relationship.



For example, let's take this simple case:



same_term(X, X).


This is a predicate that defines a relationship between two arguments. Through unification it is saying that the first and second arguments are the same if they are unified (and that definition is up to us, the writers of the predicate). Thus, same_term(a, a) will succeed, same_term(a, b) will fail, and same_term(a, X) will succeed with X = a.



You could also write this in a more explicit form:



same_term(X, Y) :-
X = Y. % X and Y are the same if they are unified


Now let's look at your example, val_and_remainder/3. First, what does it mean?



val_and_remainder(X, List, Rest)


This means that X is an element of List and Rest is a list consisting of all of the rest of the elements (without X). (NOTE: You didn't explain this meaning right off, but I'm determining this meaning from the implementation your example.)



Now we can write out to describe the rules. First, a simple base case:



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


This says that:




Xs is the remainder of list [X|Xs] without X.




This statement should be pretty obvious by the definition of the [X|Xs] syntax for a list in Prolog. You need all of these arguments because the third argument Xs must unify with the tail (rest) of list [X|Xs], which is then also Xs (variables of the same name are, by definition, unified). As before, you could write this out in more detail as:



val_and_remainder(X, [H|T], R) :-
X = H,
R = T.


But the short form is actually more clear.



Now the recursive clause says:



val_and_remainder(X, [Y|Ys], [Y|R]) :- 
val_and_remainder(X, Ys, R).


So this means:




[Y|R] is the remainder of list [Y|Ys] without X if R is the remainder of list Ys without the element X.




You need to think about that rule to convince yourself that it is logically true. The Y is the same in second and third arguments because they are referring to the same element, so they must unify.



So these two predicate clauses form two rules that cover both cases. The first case is the simple case where X is the first element of the list. The second case is a recursive definition for when X is not the first element.



When you make a query, such as val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). Prolog looks to see if it can unify the term val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with a fact or the head of one of your predicate clauses. It fails in its attempt to unify with val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs) because it would need to unify X with 2, which means it would need to unify [1,2,3] with [2|Xs] which fails since the first element of [1,2,3] is 1, but the first element of [2|Xs] is 2.



So Prolog moves on and successfully unifies val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) by unifying X with 2, Y with 1, Ys with [2,3], and R with [Y|R] (NOTE, this is important, the R variable in your call is NOT the same as the R variable in the predicate definition, so we should name this R1 to avoid that confusion). We'll name your R as R1 and say that R1 is unified with [Y|R].



When the body of the second clause is executed, it calls val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R). or, in other words, val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R). This will unify now with the first clause and give you R = [3]. When you unwind all of that, you get, R1 = [Y|[3]], and recalling that Y was bound to 1, the result is R1 = [1,3].






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  • That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

    – Laa
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How the result of R is correct, because if you look at my run-though
of a program call, the value of Xs isn't [1,3], which is what it
eventually outputs; it is instead [3] which unifies to R (clearly I am
missing something along the way, but I am unsure what that is).




This is correct:



% Initial call
val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

% Hits base case
val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


however Prolog is not like other programming languages where you enter with input and exit with output at a return statement. In Prolog you move forward through the predicate statements unifying and continuing with predicates that are true, and upon backtracking also unifying the unbound variables. (That is not technically correct but it is easier to understand for some if you think of it that way.)



You did not take into consideration the the unbound variables that are now bound upon backtracking.



When you hit the base case Xs was bound to [3],



but when you backtrack you have look at



val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


and in particular [1|R] for the third parameter.



Since Xs was unified with R in the call to the base case, i.e.



val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


R now has [3].



Now the third parameter position in



val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


is [1|R] which is [1|[3]] which as syntactic sugar is [1,3] and not just [3].



Now when the query



val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).


was run, the third parameter of the query R was unified with the third parameter of the predicate



val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R])


so R was unified with [Y|R] which unpon backtracking is [1,3]
and thus the value bound to the query variable R is [1,3]






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    Stepwise reproduction of Prolog's mechanism often leads to more confusion than it helps. You probably have notions like "returning" meaning something very specific—more appropriate to imperative languages.



    Here are different approaches you can always use:



    Ask the most general query



    ... and let Prolog explain you what the relation is about.



    | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
    Xs = [X|Ys]
    ; Xs = [_A,X|_B],
    Ys = [_A|_B]
    ; Xs = [_A,_B,X|_C],
    Ys = [_A,_B|_C]
    ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X|_D],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C|_D]
    ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,_D,X|_E],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C,_D|_E]
    ; ...


    So Xs and Ys share a common list prefix, Xs has thereafter an X, followed by a common rest. This query would continue producing further answers. Sometimes, you want to see all answers, then you have to be more specific. But don't be too specific:



    | ?- Xs = [_,_,_,_], val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
    Xs = [X,_A,_B,_C],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
    ; Xs = [_A,X,_B,_C],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
    ; Xs = [_A,_B,X,_C],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
    ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X],
    Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
    ; false.


    So here we got all possible answers for a four-element list. All of them.



    Stick to ground goals when going through specific inferences



    So instead of val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). (which obviously got your head spinning) rather consider val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], [1,3]). and then
    val_and_remainder(2, [2,3],[3]). From this side it should be obvious.



    Read Prolog rules right-to-left



    See Prolog rules as production rules. Thus, whenever everything holds on the right-hand side of a rule, you can conclude what is on the left. Thus, the :- is an early 1970s' representation of a ←



    Later on, you may want to ponder more complex questions, too. Like



    Functional dependencies




    Does the first and second argument uniquely determine the last one? Does X, XsYs hold?




    Here is a sample query that asks for Ys and Ys2 being different for the same X and Xs.



    | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys), val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys2), dif(Ys,Ys2).
    Xs = [X,_A,X|_B],
    Ys = [_A,X|_B],
    Ys2 = [X,_A|_B],
    dif([_A,X|_B],[X,_A|_B])
    ; ...


    So apparently, there are different values for Ys for a given X and Xs. Here is a concrete instance:



    | ?- val_and_remainder(x, [x,a,x], Ys).
    Ys = [a,x]
    ; Ys = [x,a]
    ; false.


    There is no classical returning here. It does not return once but twice. It's more of a yield.



    Yet, there is in fact a functional dependency between the arguments! Can you find it? And can you Prolog-wise prove it (as much as Prolog can do a proof, indeed).






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    • could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

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    • @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

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    I don't understand the name of your predicate. It is a distraction anyway. The non-uniform naming of the variables is a distraction as well. Let's use some neutral, short one-syllable names to focus on the code itself in its clearest form:





    foo( H, [H | T], T).                          % 1st clause

    foo( X, [H | T], [H | R]) :- foo( X, T, R). % 2nd clause


    So it's the built-in select/3. Yay!..



    Now you ask about the query foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) and how does R gets its value set correctly. The main thing missing from your rundown is the renaming of variables when a matching clause is selected. The resolution of the query goes like this:



    |-  foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) ? { } 
    %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
    |- ? { foo( H1, [H1|T1], T1) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
    **FAIL** (2 = 1)
    **BACKTRACK to the last SELECT**
    %% SELECT -- 2nd clause, with rename
    |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
    { foo( X1, [H1|T1], [H1|R1]) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
    **OK**
    %% REWRITE
    |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
    { X1=2, [H1|T1]=[1,2,3], [H1|R1]=R }
    %% REWRITE
    |- foo( 2, [2,3], R1) ? { R=[1|R1] }
    %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
    |- ? { foo( H2, [H2|T2], T2) = foo( 2, [2,3], R1), R=[1|R1] }
    ** OK **
    %% REWRITE
    |- ? { H2=2, T2=[3], T2=R1, R=[1|R1] }
    %% REWRITE
    |- ? { R=[1,3] }
    %% DONE


    The goals between |- and ? are the resolvent, the equations inside { } are the substitution. The knowledge base (KB) is implicitly to the left of |- in its entirety.



    On each step, the left-most goal in the resolvent is chosen, a clause with the matching head is chosen among the ones in the KB (while renaming all of the clause's variables in the consistent manner, such that no variable in the resolvent is used by the renamed clause, so there's no accidental variable capture), and the chosen goal is replaced in the resolvent with that clause's body, while the successful unification is added into the substitution. When the resolvent is empty, the query has been proven and what we see is the one successful and-branch in the whole and-or tree.





    This is how a machine could be doing it. The "rewrite" steps are introduced here for ease of human comprehension.



    So we can see here that the first successful clause selection results in the equation



         R = [1 | R1     ]


    , and the second, --



                  R1 = [3]


    , which together entail



         R = [1,        3]


    This gradual top-down instantiation / fleshing-out of lists is a very characteristic Prolog's way of doing things.





    In response to the bounty challenge, regarding functional dependency in the relation foo/3 (i.e. select/3): in foo(A,B,C), any two ground values for B and C uniquely determine the value of A (or its absence):



    2 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,2,1,3]).
    A = 1 ;
    false.

    3 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,3]).
    A = 1 ;
    false.

    4 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,4]).
    false.

    f ?- foo( A, [0,1,1], [0,1]).
    A = 1 ;
    A = 1 ;
    false.


    Attempt to disprove it by a counterargument:



    10 ?- dif(A1,A2), foo(A1,B,C), foo(A2,B,C).
    Action (h for help) ? abort
    % Execution Aborted


    Prolog fails to find a counterargument.



    Tying to see more closely what's going on, with iterative deepening:



    28 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), XX=[AA,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), 
    writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
    [A,[A],]
    [A,[A,B],[B]]
    [A,[B,A],[B]]
    [A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
    [A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
    [A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
    [A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
    false.

    29 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), foo(AA2,BB,CC),
    XX=[AA,AA2,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
    [A,A,[A],]
    [A,A,[A,B],[B]]
    [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
    [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
    [A,A,[B,A],[B]]
    [A,A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
    [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
    [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
    [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
    [A,A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
    [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
    [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
    [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
    [A,A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
    [A,A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
    false.


    AA and AA2 are always instantiated to the same variable.



    There's nothing special about the number 3, so it is safe to conjecture by generalization that it will always be so, for any length tried.





    Another attempt at Prolog-wise proof:



    ground_list(LEN,L):-
    findall(N, between(1,LEN,N), NS),
    member(N,NS),
    length(L,N),
    maplist( A^member(A,NS), L).

    bcs(N, BCS):-
    bagof(B-C, A^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), BCS).

    as(N, AS):-
    bagof(A, B^C^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), AS).

    proof(N):-
    as(N,AS), bcs(N,BCS),
    length(AS,N1), length(BCS, N2), N1 =:= N2.


    This compares the number of successful B-C combinations overall with the number of As they produce. Equality means one-to-one correspondence.



    And so we have,



    2 ?- proof(2).
    true.

    3 ?- proof(3).
    true.

    4 ?- proof(4).
    true.

    5 ?- proof(5).
    true.


    And so for any N it holds. Getting slower and slower. A general, unlimited query is trivial to write, but the slowdown seems exponential.






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    • Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

      – false
      Jan 11 at 22:07











    • You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

      – false
      Jan 11 at 22:50











    • made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

      – Will Ness
      Jan 11 at 23:09











    • Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

      – false
      Jan 12 at 16:11











    • numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

      – false
      Jan 12 at 16:35











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    In Prolog, you need to think of predicates not as functions as you would normally in other languages. Predicates describe relationships which might include arguments that help define that relationship.



    For example, let's take this simple case:



    same_term(X, X).


    This is a predicate that defines a relationship between two arguments. Through unification it is saying that the first and second arguments are the same if they are unified (and that definition is up to us, the writers of the predicate). Thus, same_term(a, a) will succeed, same_term(a, b) will fail, and same_term(a, X) will succeed with X = a.



    You could also write this in a more explicit form:



    same_term(X, Y) :-
    X = Y. % X and Y are the same if they are unified


    Now let's look at your example, val_and_remainder/3. First, what does it mean?



    val_and_remainder(X, List, Rest)


    This means that X is an element of List and Rest is a list consisting of all of the rest of the elements (without X). (NOTE: You didn't explain this meaning right off, but I'm determining this meaning from the implementation your example.)



    Now we can write out to describe the rules. First, a simple base case:



    val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


    This says that:




    Xs is the remainder of list [X|Xs] without X.




    This statement should be pretty obvious by the definition of the [X|Xs] syntax for a list in Prolog. You need all of these arguments because the third argument Xs must unify with the tail (rest) of list [X|Xs], which is then also Xs (variables of the same name are, by definition, unified). As before, you could write this out in more detail as:



    val_and_remainder(X, [H|T], R) :-
    X = H,
    R = T.


    But the short form is actually more clear.



    Now the recursive clause says:



    val_and_remainder(X, [Y|Ys], [Y|R]) :- 
    val_and_remainder(X, Ys, R).


    So this means:




    [Y|R] is the remainder of list [Y|Ys] without X if R is the remainder of list Ys without the element X.




    You need to think about that rule to convince yourself that it is logically true. The Y is the same in second and third arguments because they are referring to the same element, so they must unify.



    So these two predicate clauses form two rules that cover both cases. The first case is the simple case where X is the first element of the list. The second case is a recursive definition for when X is not the first element.



    When you make a query, such as val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). Prolog looks to see if it can unify the term val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with a fact or the head of one of your predicate clauses. It fails in its attempt to unify with val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs) because it would need to unify X with 2, which means it would need to unify [1,2,3] with [2|Xs] which fails since the first element of [1,2,3] is 1, but the first element of [2|Xs] is 2.



    So Prolog moves on and successfully unifies val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) by unifying X with 2, Y with 1, Ys with [2,3], and R with [Y|R] (NOTE, this is important, the R variable in your call is NOT the same as the R variable in the predicate definition, so we should name this R1 to avoid that confusion). We'll name your R as R1 and say that R1 is unified with [Y|R].



    When the body of the second clause is executed, it calls val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R). or, in other words, val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R). This will unify now with the first clause and give you R = [3]. When you unwind all of that, you get, R1 = [Y|[3]], and recalling that Y was bound to 1, the result is R1 = [1,3].






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    • That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

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    In Prolog, you need to think of predicates not as functions as you would normally in other languages. Predicates describe relationships which might include arguments that help define that relationship.



    For example, let's take this simple case:



    same_term(X, X).


    This is a predicate that defines a relationship between two arguments. Through unification it is saying that the first and second arguments are the same if they are unified (and that definition is up to us, the writers of the predicate). Thus, same_term(a, a) will succeed, same_term(a, b) will fail, and same_term(a, X) will succeed with X = a.



    You could also write this in a more explicit form:



    same_term(X, Y) :-
    X = Y. % X and Y are the same if they are unified


    Now let's look at your example, val_and_remainder/3. First, what does it mean?



    val_and_remainder(X, List, Rest)


    This means that X is an element of List and Rest is a list consisting of all of the rest of the elements (without X). (NOTE: You didn't explain this meaning right off, but I'm determining this meaning from the implementation your example.)



    Now we can write out to describe the rules. First, a simple base case:



    val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


    This says that:




    Xs is the remainder of list [X|Xs] without X.




    This statement should be pretty obvious by the definition of the [X|Xs] syntax for a list in Prolog. You need all of these arguments because the third argument Xs must unify with the tail (rest) of list [X|Xs], which is then also Xs (variables of the same name are, by definition, unified). As before, you could write this out in more detail as:



    val_and_remainder(X, [H|T], R) :-
    X = H,
    R = T.


    But the short form is actually more clear.



    Now the recursive clause says:



    val_and_remainder(X, [Y|Ys], [Y|R]) :- 
    val_and_remainder(X, Ys, R).


    So this means:




    [Y|R] is the remainder of list [Y|Ys] without X if R is the remainder of list Ys without the element X.




    You need to think about that rule to convince yourself that it is logically true. The Y is the same in second and third arguments because they are referring to the same element, so they must unify.



    So these two predicate clauses form two rules that cover both cases. The first case is the simple case where X is the first element of the list. The second case is a recursive definition for when X is not the first element.



    When you make a query, such as val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). Prolog looks to see if it can unify the term val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with a fact or the head of one of your predicate clauses. It fails in its attempt to unify with val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs) because it would need to unify X with 2, which means it would need to unify [1,2,3] with [2|Xs] which fails since the first element of [1,2,3] is 1, but the first element of [2|Xs] is 2.



    So Prolog moves on and successfully unifies val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) by unifying X with 2, Y with 1, Ys with [2,3], and R with [Y|R] (NOTE, this is important, the R variable in your call is NOT the same as the R variable in the predicate definition, so we should name this R1 to avoid that confusion). We'll name your R as R1 and say that R1 is unified with [Y|R].



    When the body of the second clause is executed, it calls val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R). or, in other words, val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R). This will unify now with the first clause and give you R = [3]. When you unwind all of that, you get, R1 = [Y|[3]], and recalling that Y was bound to 1, the result is R1 = [1,3].






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    • That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

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    In Prolog, you need to think of predicates not as functions as you would normally in other languages. Predicates describe relationships which might include arguments that help define that relationship.



    For example, let's take this simple case:



    same_term(X, X).


    This is a predicate that defines a relationship between two arguments. Through unification it is saying that the first and second arguments are the same if they are unified (and that definition is up to us, the writers of the predicate). Thus, same_term(a, a) will succeed, same_term(a, b) will fail, and same_term(a, X) will succeed with X = a.



    You could also write this in a more explicit form:



    same_term(X, Y) :-
    X = Y. % X and Y are the same if they are unified


    Now let's look at your example, val_and_remainder/3. First, what does it mean?



    val_and_remainder(X, List, Rest)


    This means that X is an element of List and Rest is a list consisting of all of the rest of the elements (without X). (NOTE: You didn't explain this meaning right off, but I'm determining this meaning from the implementation your example.)



    Now we can write out to describe the rules. First, a simple base case:



    val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


    This says that:




    Xs is the remainder of list [X|Xs] without X.




    This statement should be pretty obvious by the definition of the [X|Xs] syntax for a list in Prolog. You need all of these arguments because the third argument Xs must unify with the tail (rest) of list [X|Xs], which is then also Xs (variables of the same name are, by definition, unified). As before, you could write this out in more detail as:



    val_and_remainder(X, [H|T], R) :-
    X = H,
    R = T.


    But the short form is actually more clear.



    Now the recursive clause says:



    val_and_remainder(X, [Y|Ys], [Y|R]) :- 
    val_and_remainder(X, Ys, R).


    So this means:




    [Y|R] is the remainder of list [Y|Ys] without X if R is the remainder of list Ys without the element X.




    You need to think about that rule to convince yourself that it is logically true. The Y is the same in second and third arguments because they are referring to the same element, so they must unify.



    So these two predicate clauses form two rules that cover both cases. The first case is the simple case where X is the first element of the list. The second case is a recursive definition for when X is not the first element.



    When you make a query, such as val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). Prolog looks to see if it can unify the term val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with a fact or the head of one of your predicate clauses. It fails in its attempt to unify with val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs) because it would need to unify X with 2, which means it would need to unify [1,2,3] with [2|Xs] which fails since the first element of [1,2,3] is 1, but the first element of [2|Xs] is 2.



    So Prolog moves on and successfully unifies val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) by unifying X with 2, Y with 1, Ys with [2,3], and R with [Y|R] (NOTE, this is important, the R variable in your call is NOT the same as the R variable in the predicate definition, so we should name this R1 to avoid that confusion). We'll name your R as R1 and say that R1 is unified with [Y|R].



    When the body of the second clause is executed, it calls val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R). or, in other words, val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R). This will unify now with the first clause and give you R = [3]. When you unwind all of that, you get, R1 = [Y|[3]], and recalling that Y was bound to 1, the result is R1 = [1,3].






    share|improve this answer















    In Prolog, you need to think of predicates not as functions as you would normally in other languages. Predicates describe relationships which might include arguments that help define that relationship.



    For example, let's take this simple case:



    same_term(X, X).


    This is a predicate that defines a relationship between two arguments. Through unification it is saying that the first and second arguments are the same if they are unified (and that definition is up to us, the writers of the predicate). Thus, same_term(a, a) will succeed, same_term(a, b) will fail, and same_term(a, X) will succeed with X = a.



    You could also write this in a more explicit form:



    same_term(X, Y) :-
    X = Y. % X and Y are the same if they are unified


    Now let's look at your example, val_and_remainder/3. First, what does it mean?



    val_and_remainder(X, List, Rest)


    This means that X is an element of List and Rest is a list consisting of all of the rest of the elements (without X). (NOTE: You didn't explain this meaning right off, but I'm determining this meaning from the implementation your example.)



    Now we can write out to describe the rules. First, a simple base case:



    val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


    This says that:




    Xs is the remainder of list [X|Xs] without X.




    This statement should be pretty obvious by the definition of the [X|Xs] syntax for a list in Prolog. You need all of these arguments because the third argument Xs must unify with the tail (rest) of list [X|Xs], which is then also Xs (variables of the same name are, by definition, unified). As before, you could write this out in more detail as:



    val_and_remainder(X, [H|T], R) :-
    X = H,
    R = T.


    But the short form is actually more clear.



    Now the recursive clause says:



    val_and_remainder(X, [Y|Ys], [Y|R]) :- 
    val_and_remainder(X, Ys, R).


    So this means:




    [Y|R] is the remainder of list [Y|Ys] without X if R is the remainder of list Ys without the element X.




    You need to think about that rule to convince yourself that it is logically true. The Y is the same in second and third arguments because they are referring to the same element, so they must unify.



    So these two predicate clauses form two rules that cover both cases. The first case is the simple case where X is the first element of the list. The second case is a recursive definition for when X is not the first element.



    When you make a query, such as val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). Prolog looks to see if it can unify the term val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with a fact or the head of one of your predicate clauses. It fails in its attempt to unify with val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs) because it would need to unify X with 2, which means it would need to unify [1,2,3] with [2|Xs] which fails since the first element of [1,2,3] is 1, but the first element of [2|Xs] is 2.



    So Prolog moves on and successfully unifies val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R) with val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R]) by unifying X with 2, Y with 1, Ys with [2,3], and R with [Y|R] (NOTE, this is important, the R variable in your call is NOT the same as the R variable in the predicate definition, so we should name this R1 to avoid that confusion). We'll name your R as R1 and say that R1 is unified with [Y|R].



    When the body of the second clause is executed, it calls val_and_remainder(X,Ys,R). or, in other words, val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R). This will unify now with the first clause and give you R = [3]. When you unwind all of that, you get, R1 = [Y|[3]], and recalling that Y was bound to 1, the result is R1 = [1,3].







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    • That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

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    • That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

      – Laa
      Jan 5 at 22:22

















    That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 22:22





    That makes a lot of sense, thank you! Sorry to bombard you with another question straight away, but is there any chance you could review my other question please? stackoverflow.com/questions/54053834/…

    – Laa
    Jan 5 at 22:22













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    From comment:




    How the result of R is correct, because if you look at my run-though
    of a program call, the value of Xs isn't [1,3], which is what it
    eventually outputs; it is instead [3] which unifies to R (clearly I am
    missing something along the way, but I am unsure what that is).




    This is correct:



    % Initial call
    val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

    val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

    % Hits base case
    val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


    however Prolog is not like other programming languages where you enter with input and exit with output at a return statement. In Prolog you move forward through the predicate statements unifying and continuing with predicates that are true, and upon backtracking also unifying the unbound variables. (That is not technically correct but it is easier to understand for some if you think of it that way.)



    You did not take into consideration the the unbound variables that are now bound upon backtracking.



    When you hit the base case Xs was bound to [3],



    but when you backtrack you have look at



    val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


    and in particular [1|R] for the third parameter.



    Since Xs was unified with R in the call to the base case, i.e.



    val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


    R now has [3].



    Now the third parameter position in



    val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


    is [1|R] which is [1|[3]] which as syntactic sugar is [1,3] and not just [3].



    Now when the query



    val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).


    was run, the third parameter of the query R was unified with the third parameter of the predicate



    val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R])


    so R was unified with [Y|R] which unpon backtracking is [1,3]
    and thus the value bound to the query variable R is [1,3]






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      From comment:




      How the result of R is correct, because if you look at my run-though
      of a program call, the value of Xs isn't [1,3], which is what it
      eventually outputs; it is instead [3] which unifies to R (clearly I am
      missing something along the way, but I am unsure what that is).




      This is correct:



      % Initial call
      val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

      val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

      % Hits base case
      val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


      however Prolog is not like other programming languages where you enter with input and exit with output at a return statement. In Prolog you move forward through the predicate statements unifying and continuing with predicates that are true, and upon backtracking also unifying the unbound variables. (That is not technically correct but it is easier to understand for some if you think of it that way.)



      You did not take into consideration the the unbound variables that are now bound upon backtracking.



      When you hit the base case Xs was bound to [3],



      but when you backtrack you have look at



      val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


      and in particular [1|R] for the third parameter.



      Since Xs was unified with R in the call to the base case, i.e.



      val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


      R now has [3].



      Now the third parameter position in



      val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


      is [1|R] which is [1|[3]] which as syntactic sugar is [1,3] and not just [3].



      Now when the query



      val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).


      was run, the third parameter of the query R was unified with the third parameter of the predicate



      val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R])


      so R was unified with [Y|R] which unpon backtracking is [1,3]
      and thus the value bound to the query variable R is [1,3]






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        From comment:




        How the result of R is correct, because if you look at my run-though
        of a program call, the value of Xs isn't [1,3], which is what it
        eventually outputs; it is instead [3] which unifies to R (clearly I am
        missing something along the way, but I am unsure what that is).




        This is correct:



        % Initial call
        val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

        % Hits base case
        val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


        however Prolog is not like other programming languages where you enter with input and exit with output at a return statement. In Prolog you move forward through the predicate statements unifying and continuing with predicates that are true, and upon backtracking also unifying the unbound variables. (That is not technically correct but it is easier to understand for some if you think of it that way.)



        You did not take into consideration the the unbound variables that are now bound upon backtracking.



        When you hit the base case Xs was bound to [3],



        but when you backtrack you have look at



        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


        and in particular [1|R] for the third parameter.



        Since Xs was unified with R in the call to the base case, i.e.



        val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


        R now has [3].



        Now the third parameter position in



        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


        is [1|R] which is [1|[3]] which as syntactic sugar is [1,3] and not just [3].



        Now when the query



        val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).


        was run, the third parameter of the query R was unified with the third parameter of the predicate



        val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R])


        so R was unified with [Y|R] which unpon backtracking is [1,3]
        and thus the value bound to the query variable R is [1,3]






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        From comment:




        How the result of R is correct, because if you look at my run-though
        of a program call, the value of Xs isn't [1,3], which is what it
        eventually outputs; it is instead [3] which unifies to R (clearly I am
        missing something along the way, but I am unsure what that is).




        This is correct:



        % Initial call
        val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).

        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R]) :- val_and_remainder(2, [2,3], R).

        % Hits base case
        val_and_remainder(2, [2|[3]], [3]).


        however Prolog is not like other programming languages where you enter with input and exit with output at a return statement. In Prolog you move forward through the predicate statements unifying and continuing with predicates that are true, and upon backtracking also unifying the unbound variables. (That is not technically correct but it is easier to understand for some if you think of it that way.)



        You did not take into consideration the the unbound variables that are now bound upon backtracking.



        When you hit the base case Xs was bound to [3],



        but when you backtrack you have look at



        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


        and in particular [1|R] for the third parameter.



        Since Xs was unified with R in the call to the base case, i.e.



        val_and_remainder(X,[X|Xs],Xs).


        R now has [3].



        Now the third parameter position in



        val_and_remainder(2, [1|[2,3]], [1|R])


        is [1|R] which is [1|[3]] which as syntactic sugar is [1,3] and not just [3].



        Now when the query



        val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R).


        was run, the third parameter of the query R was unified with the third parameter of the predicate



        val_and_remainder(X,[Y|Ys],[Y|R])


        so R was unified with [Y|R] which unpon backtracking is [1,3]
        and thus the value bound to the query variable R is [1,3]







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            Stepwise reproduction of Prolog's mechanism often leads to more confusion than it helps. You probably have notions like "returning" meaning something very specific—more appropriate to imperative languages.



            Here are different approaches you can always use:



            Ask the most general query



            ... and let Prolog explain you what the relation is about.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X|Ys]
            ; Xs = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A|_B]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X|_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B|_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X|_D],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C|_D]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,_D,X|_E],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C,_D|_E]
            ; ...


            So Xs and Ys share a common list prefix, Xs has thereafter an X, followed by a common rest. This query would continue producing further answers. Sometimes, you want to see all answers, then you have to be more specific. But don't be too specific:



            | ?- Xs = [_,_,_,_], val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X,_A,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,X,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; false.


            So here we got all possible answers for a four-element list. All of them.



            Stick to ground goals when going through specific inferences



            So instead of val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). (which obviously got your head spinning) rather consider val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], [1,3]). and then
            val_and_remainder(2, [2,3],[3]). From this side it should be obvious.



            Read Prolog rules right-to-left



            See Prolog rules as production rules. Thus, whenever everything holds on the right-hand side of a rule, you can conclude what is on the left. Thus, the :- is an early 1970s' representation of a ←



            Later on, you may want to ponder more complex questions, too. Like



            Functional dependencies




            Does the first and second argument uniquely determine the last one? Does X, XsYs hold?




            Here is a sample query that asks for Ys and Ys2 being different for the same X and Xs.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys), val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys2), dif(Ys,Ys2).
            Xs = [X,_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys2 = [X,_A|_B],
            dif([_A,X|_B],[X,_A|_B])
            ; ...


            So apparently, there are different values for Ys for a given X and Xs. Here is a concrete instance:



            | ?- val_and_remainder(x, [x,a,x], Ys).
            Ys = [a,x]
            ; Ys = [x,a]
            ; false.


            There is no classical returning here. It does not return once but twice. It's more of a yield.



            Yet, there is in fact a functional dependency between the arguments! Can you find it? And can you Prolog-wise prove it (as much as Prolog can do a proof, indeed).






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            • could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

              – Will Ness
              Jan 10 at 17:23











            • @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

              – false
              Jan 10 at 17:38
















            3














            Stepwise reproduction of Prolog's mechanism often leads to more confusion than it helps. You probably have notions like "returning" meaning something very specific—more appropriate to imperative languages.



            Here are different approaches you can always use:



            Ask the most general query



            ... and let Prolog explain you what the relation is about.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X|Ys]
            ; Xs = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A|_B]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X|_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B|_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X|_D],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C|_D]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,_D,X|_E],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C,_D|_E]
            ; ...


            So Xs and Ys share a common list prefix, Xs has thereafter an X, followed by a common rest. This query would continue producing further answers. Sometimes, you want to see all answers, then you have to be more specific. But don't be too specific:



            | ?- Xs = [_,_,_,_], val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X,_A,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,X,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; false.


            So here we got all possible answers for a four-element list. All of them.



            Stick to ground goals when going through specific inferences



            So instead of val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). (which obviously got your head spinning) rather consider val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], [1,3]). and then
            val_and_remainder(2, [2,3],[3]). From this side it should be obvious.



            Read Prolog rules right-to-left



            See Prolog rules as production rules. Thus, whenever everything holds on the right-hand side of a rule, you can conclude what is on the left. Thus, the :- is an early 1970s' representation of a ←



            Later on, you may want to ponder more complex questions, too. Like



            Functional dependencies




            Does the first and second argument uniquely determine the last one? Does X, XsYs hold?




            Here is a sample query that asks for Ys and Ys2 being different for the same X and Xs.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys), val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys2), dif(Ys,Ys2).
            Xs = [X,_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys2 = [X,_A|_B],
            dif([_A,X|_B],[X,_A|_B])
            ; ...


            So apparently, there are different values for Ys for a given X and Xs. Here is a concrete instance:



            | ?- val_and_remainder(x, [x,a,x], Ys).
            Ys = [a,x]
            ; Ys = [x,a]
            ; false.


            There is no classical returning here. It does not return once but twice. It's more of a yield.



            Yet, there is in fact a functional dependency between the arguments! Can you find it? And can you Prolog-wise prove it (as much as Prolog can do a proof, indeed).






            share|improve this answer


























            • could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

              – Will Ness
              Jan 10 at 17:23











            • @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

              – false
              Jan 10 at 17:38














            3












            3








            3







            Stepwise reproduction of Prolog's mechanism often leads to more confusion than it helps. You probably have notions like "returning" meaning something very specific—more appropriate to imperative languages.



            Here are different approaches you can always use:



            Ask the most general query



            ... and let Prolog explain you what the relation is about.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X|Ys]
            ; Xs = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A|_B]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X|_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B|_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X|_D],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C|_D]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,_D,X|_E],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C,_D|_E]
            ; ...


            So Xs and Ys share a common list prefix, Xs has thereafter an X, followed by a common rest. This query would continue producing further answers. Sometimes, you want to see all answers, then you have to be more specific. But don't be too specific:



            | ?- Xs = [_,_,_,_], val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X,_A,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,X,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; false.


            So here we got all possible answers for a four-element list. All of them.



            Stick to ground goals when going through specific inferences



            So instead of val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). (which obviously got your head spinning) rather consider val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], [1,3]). and then
            val_and_remainder(2, [2,3],[3]). From this side it should be obvious.



            Read Prolog rules right-to-left



            See Prolog rules as production rules. Thus, whenever everything holds on the right-hand side of a rule, you can conclude what is on the left. Thus, the :- is an early 1970s' representation of a ←



            Later on, you may want to ponder more complex questions, too. Like



            Functional dependencies




            Does the first and second argument uniquely determine the last one? Does X, XsYs hold?




            Here is a sample query that asks for Ys and Ys2 being different for the same X and Xs.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys), val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys2), dif(Ys,Ys2).
            Xs = [X,_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys2 = [X,_A|_B],
            dif([_A,X|_B],[X,_A|_B])
            ; ...


            So apparently, there are different values for Ys for a given X and Xs. Here is a concrete instance:



            | ?- val_and_remainder(x, [x,a,x], Ys).
            Ys = [a,x]
            ; Ys = [x,a]
            ; false.


            There is no classical returning here. It does not return once but twice. It's more of a yield.



            Yet, there is in fact a functional dependency between the arguments! Can you find it? And can you Prolog-wise prove it (as much as Prolog can do a proof, indeed).






            share|improve this answer















            Stepwise reproduction of Prolog's mechanism often leads to more confusion than it helps. You probably have notions like "returning" meaning something very specific—more appropriate to imperative languages.



            Here are different approaches you can always use:



            Ask the most general query



            ... and let Prolog explain you what the relation is about.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X|Ys]
            ; Xs = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A|_B]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X|_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B|_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X|_D],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C|_D]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,_D,X|_E],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C,_D|_E]
            ; ...


            So Xs and Ys share a common list prefix, Xs has thereafter an X, followed by a common rest. This query would continue producing further answers. Sometimes, you want to see all answers, then you have to be more specific. But don't be too specific:



            | ?- Xs = [_,_,_,_], val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys).
            Xs = [X,_A,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,X,_B,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,X,_C],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; Xs = [_A,_B,_C,X],
            Ys = [_A,_B,_C]
            ; false.


            So here we got all possible answers for a four-element list. All of them.



            Stick to ground goals when going through specific inferences



            So instead of val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], R). (which obviously got your head spinning) rather consider val_and_remainder(2, [1,2,3], [1,3]). and then
            val_and_remainder(2, [2,3],[3]). From this side it should be obvious.



            Read Prolog rules right-to-left



            See Prolog rules as production rules. Thus, whenever everything holds on the right-hand side of a rule, you can conclude what is on the left. Thus, the :- is an early 1970s' representation of a ←



            Later on, you may want to ponder more complex questions, too. Like



            Functional dependencies




            Does the first and second argument uniquely determine the last one? Does X, XsYs hold?




            Here is a sample query that asks for Ys and Ys2 being different for the same X and Xs.



            | ?- val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys), val_and_remainder(X, Xs, Ys2), dif(Ys,Ys2).
            Xs = [X,_A,X|_B],
            Ys = [_A,X|_B],
            Ys2 = [X,_A|_B],
            dif([_A,X|_B],[X,_A|_B])
            ; ...


            So apparently, there are different values for Ys for a given X and Xs. Here is a concrete instance:



            | ?- val_and_remainder(x, [x,a,x], Ys).
            Ys = [a,x]
            ; Ys = [x,a]
            ; false.


            There is no classical returning here. It does not return once but twice. It's more of a yield.



            Yet, there is in fact a functional dependency between the arguments! Can you find it? And can you Prolog-wise prove it (as much as Prolog can do a proof, indeed).







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            • could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

              – Will Ness
              Jan 10 at 17:23











            • @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

              – false
              Jan 10 at 17:38



















            • could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

              – Will Ness
              Jan 10 at 17:23











            • @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

              – false
              Jan 10 at 17:38

















            could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

            – Will Ness
            Jan 10 at 17:23





            could you please clarify what does it mean "a functional dependency between the arguments does exist"? Does it mean "formulate a query that is guaranteed to always produce just one answer" (variant: no more than one answers)?

            – Will Ness
            Jan 10 at 17:23













            @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

            – false
            Jan 10 at 17:38





            @Will: We have already the relation defined. And now we consider properties of this relation. One is the notion of functional dependency. That notion from relational databases is easily extended to infinite relations. And that what I am asking for: Which arguments are determining uniquely which other arguments. (As for the proof: a proof for a relation that is non-terminating for the most general query might be non-terminating as well. Well, we have to accept that)

            – false
            Jan 10 at 17:38











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            I don't understand the name of your predicate. It is a distraction anyway. The non-uniform naming of the variables is a distraction as well. Let's use some neutral, short one-syllable names to focus on the code itself in its clearest form:





            foo( H, [H | T], T).                          % 1st clause

            foo( X, [H | T], [H | R]) :- foo( X, T, R). % 2nd clause


            So it's the built-in select/3. Yay!..



            Now you ask about the query foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) and how does R gets its value set correctly. The main thing missing from your rundown is the renaming of variables when a matching clause is selected. The resolution of the query goes like this:



            |-  foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) ? { } 
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H1, [H1|T1], T1) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **FAIL** (2 = 1)
            **BACKTRACK to the last SELECT**
            %% SELECT -- 2nd clause, with rename
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { foo( X1, [H1|T1], [H1|R1]) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **OK**
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { X1=2, [H1|T1]=[1,2,3], [H1|R1]=R }
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( 2, [2,3], R1) ? { R=[1|R1] }
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H2, [H2|T2], T2) = foo( 2, [2,3], R1), R=[1|R1] }
            ** OK **
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { H2=2, T2=[3], T2=R1, R=[1|R1] }
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { R=[1,3] }
            %% DONE


            The goals between |- and ? are the resolvent, the equations inside { } are the substitution. The knowledge base (KB) is implicitly to the left of |- in its entirety.



            On each step, the left-most goal in the resolvent is chosen, a clause with the matching head is chosen among the ones in the KB (while renaming all of the clause's variables in the consistent manner, such that no variable in the resolvent is used by the renamed clause, so there's no accidental variable capture), and the chosen goal is replaced in the resolvent with that clause's body, while the successful unification is added into the substitution. When the resolvent is empty, the query has been proven and what we see is the one successful and-branch in the whole and-or tree.





            This is how a machine could be doing it. The "rewrite" steps are introduced here for ease of human comprehension.



            So we can see here that the first successful clause selection results in the equation



                 R = [1 | R1     ]


            , and the second, --



                          R1 = [3]


            , which together entail



                 R = [1,        3]


            This gradual top-down instantiation / fleshing-out of lists is a very characteristic Prolog's way of doing things.





            In response to the bounty challenge, regarding functional dependency in the relation foo/3 (i.e. select/3): in foo(A,B,C), any two ground values for B and C uniquely determine the value of A (or its absence):



            2 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,2,1,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            3 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            4 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,4]).
            false.

            f ?- foo( A, [0,1,1], [0,1]).
            A = 1 ;
            A = 1 ;
            false.


            Attempt to disprove it by a counterargument:



            10 ?- dif(A1,A2), foo(A1,B,C), foo(A2,B,C).
            Action (h for help) ? abort
            % Execution Aborted


            Prolog fails to find a counterargument.



            Tying to see more closely what's going on, with iterative deepening:



            28 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), XX=[AA,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), 
            writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,[A],]
            [A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.

            29 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), foo(AA2,BB,CC),
            XX=[AA,AA2,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,A,[A],]
            [A,A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.


            AA and AA2 are always instantiated to the same variable.



            There's nothing special about the number 3, so it is safe to conjecture by generalization that it will always be so, for any length tried.





            Another attempt at Prolog-wise proof:



            ground_list(LEN,L):-
            findall(N, between(1,LEN,N), NS),
            member(N,NS),
            length(L,N),
            maplist( A^member(A,NS), L).

            bcs(N, BCS):-
            bagof(B-C, A^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), BCS).

            as(N, AS):-
            bagof(A, B^C^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), AS).

            proof(N):-
            as(N,AS), bcs(N,BCS),
            length(AS,N1), length(BCS, N2), N1 =:= N2.


            This compares the number of successful B-C combinations overall with the number of As they produce. Equality means one-to-one correspondence.



            And so we have,



            2 ?- proof(2).
            true.

            3 ?- proof(3).
            true.

            4 ?- proof(4).
            true.

            5 ?- proof(5).
            true.


            And so for any N it holds. Getting slower and slower. A general, unlimited query is trivial to write, but the slowdown seems exponential.






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            • Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:07











            • You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:50











            • made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

              – Will Ness
              Jan 11 at 23:09











            • Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:11











            • numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:35
















            2





            +500









            I don't understand the name of your predicate. It is a distraction anyway. The non-uniform naming of the variables is a distraction as well. Let's use some neutral, short one-syllable names to focus on the code itself in its clearest form:





            foo( H, [H | T], T).                          % 1st clause

            foo( X, [H | T], [H | R]) :- foo( X, T, R). % 2nd clause


            So it's the built-in select/3. Yay!..



            Now you ask about the query foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) and how does R gets its value set correctly. The main thing missing from your rundown is the renaming of variables when a matching clause is selected. The resolution of the query goes like this:



            |-  foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) ? { } 
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H1, [H1|T1], T1) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **FAIL** (2 = 1)
            **BACKTRACK to the last SELECT**
            %% SELECT -- 2nd clause, with rename
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { foo( X1, [H1|T1], [H1|R1]) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **OK**
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { X1=2, [H1|T1]=[1,2,3], [H1|R1]=R }
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( 2, [2,3], R1) ? { R=[1|R1] }
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H2, [H2|T2], T2) = foo( 2, [2,3], R1), R=[1|R1] }
            ** OK **
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { H2=2, T2=[3], T2=R1, R=[1|R1] }
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { R=[1,3] }
            %% DONE


            The goals between |- and ? are the resolvent, the equations inside { } are the substitution. The knowledge base (KB) is implicitly to the left of |- in its entirety.



            On each step, the left-most goal in the resolvent is chosen, a clause with the matching head is chosen among the ones in the KB (while renaming all of the clause's variables in the consistent manner, such that no variable in the resolvent is used by the renamed clause, so there's no accidental variable capture), and the chosen goal is replaced in the resolvent with that clause's body, while the successful unification is added into the substitution. When the resolvent is empty, the query has been proven and what we see is the one successful and-branch in the whole and-or tree.





            This is how a machine could be doing it. The "rewrite" steps are introduced here for ease of human comprehension.



            So we can see here that the first successful clause selection results in the equation



                 R = [1 | R1     ]


            , and the second, --



                          R1 = [3]


            , which together entail



                 R = [1,        3]


            This gradual top-down instantiation / fleshing-out of lists is a very characteristic Prolog's way of doing things.





            In response to the bounty challenge, regarding functional dependency in the relation foo/3 (i.e. select/3): in foo(A,B,C), any two ground values for B and C uniquely determine the value of A (or its absence):



            2 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,2,1,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            3 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            4 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,4]).
            false.

            f ?- foo( A, [0,1,1], [0,1]).
            A = 1 ;
            A = 1 ;
            false.


            Attempt to disprove it by a counterargument:



            10 ?- dif(A1,A2), foo(A1,B,C), foo(A2,B,C).
            Action (h for help) ? abort
            % Execution Aborted


            Prolog fails to find a counterargument.



            Tying to see more closely what's going on, with iterative deepening:



            28 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), XX=[AA,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), 
            writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,[A],]
            [A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.

            29 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), foo(AA2,BB,CC),
            XX=[AA,AA2,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,A,[A],]
            [A,A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.


            AA and AA2 are always instantiated to the same variable.



            There's nothing special about the number 3, so it is safe to conjecture by generalization that it will always be so, for any length tried.





            Another attempt at Prolog-wise proof:



            ground_list(LEN,L):-
            findall(N, between(1,LEN,N), NS),
            member(N,NS),
            length(L,N),
            maplist( A^member(A,NS), L).

            bcs(N, BCS):-
            bagof(B-C, A^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), BCS).

            as(N, AS):-
            bagof(A, B^C^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), AS).

            proof(N):-
            as(N,AS), bcs(N,BCS),
            length(AS,N1), length(BCS, N2), N1 =:= N2.


            This compares the number of successful B-C combinations overall with the number of As they produce. Equality means one-to-one correspondence.



            And so we have,



            2 ?- proof(2).
            true.

            3 ?- proof(3).
            true.

            4 ?- proof(4).
            true.

            5 ?- proof(5).
            true.


            And so for any N it holds. Getting slower and slower. A general, unlimited query is trivial to write, but the slowdown seems exponential.






            share|improve this answer


























            • Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:07











            • You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:50











            • made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

              – Will Ness
              Jan 11 at 23:09











            • Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:11











            • numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:35














            2





            +500







            2





            +500



            2




            +500





            I don't understand the name of your predicate. It is a distraction anyway. The non-uniform naming of the variables is a distraction as well. Let's use some neutral, short one-syllable names to focus on the code itself in its clearest form:





            foo( H, [H | T], T).                          % 1st clause

            foo( X, [H | T], [H | R]) :- foo( X, T, R). % 2nd clause


            So it's the built-in select/3. Yay!..



            Now you ask about the query foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) and how does R gets its value set correctly. The main thing missing from your rundown is the renaming of variables when a matching clause is selected. The resolution of the query goes like this:



            |-  foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) ? { } 
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H1, [H1|T1], T1) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **FAIL** (2 = 1)
            **BACKTRACK to the last SELECT**
            %% SELECT -- 2nd clause, with rename
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { foo( X1, [H1|T1], [H1|R1]) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **OK**
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { X1=2, [H1|T1]=[1,2,3], [H1|R1]=R }
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( 2, [2,3], R1) ? { R=[1|R1] }
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H2, [H2|T2], T2) = foo( 2, [2,3], R1), R=[1|R1] }
            ** OK **
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { H2=2, T2=[3], T2=R1, R=[1|R1] }
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { R=[1,3] }
            %% DONE


            The goals between |- and ? are the resolvent, the equations inside { } are the substitution. The knowledge base (KB) is implicitly to the left of |- in its entirety.



            On each step, the left-most goal in the resolvent is chosen, a clause with the matching head is chosen among the ones in the KB (while renaming all of the clause's variables in the consistent manner, such that no variable in the resolvent is used by the renamed clause, so there's no accidental variable capture), and the chosen goal is replaced in the resolvent with that clause's body, while the successful unification is added into the substitution. When the resolvent is empty, the query has been proven and what we see is the one successful and-branch in the whole and-or tree.





            This is how a machine could be doing it. The "rewrite" steps are introduced here for ease of human comprehension.



            So we can see here that the first successful clause selection results in the equation



                 R = [1 | R1     ]


            , and the second, --



                          R1 = [3]


            , which together entail



                 R = [1,        3]


            This gradual top-down instantiation / fleshing-out of lists is a very characteristic Prolog's way of doing things.





            In response to the bounty challenge, regarding functional dependency in the relation foo/3 (i.e. select/3): in foo(A,B,C), any two ground values for B and C uniquely determine the value of A (or its absence):



            2 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,2,1,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            3 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            4 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,4]).
            false.

            f ?- foo( A, [0,1,1], [0,1]).
            A = 1 ;
            A = 1 ;
            false.


            Attempt to disprove it by a counterargument:



            10 ?- dif(A1,A2), foo(A1,B,C), foo(A2,B,C).
            Action (h for help) ? abort
            % Execution Aborted


            Prolog fails to find a counterargument.



            Tying to see more closely what's going on, with iterative deepening:



            28 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), XX=[AA,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), 
            writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,[A],]
            [A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.

            29 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), foo(AA2,BB,CC),
            XX=[AA,AA2,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,A,[A],]
            [A,A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.


            AA and AA2 are always instantiated to the same variable.



            There's nothing special about the number 3, so it is safe to conjecture by generalization that it will always be so, for any length tried.





            Another attempt at Prolog-wise proof:



            ground_list(LEN,L):-
            findall(N, between(1,LEN,N), NS),
            member(N,NS),
            length(L,N),
            maplist( A^member(A,NS), L).

            bcs(N, BCS):-
            bagof(B-C, A^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), BCS).

            as(N, AS):-
            bagof(A, B^C^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), AS).

            proof(N):-
            as(N,AS), bcs(N,BCS),
            length(AS,N1), length(BCS, N2), N1 =:= N2.


            This compares the number of successful B-C combinations overall with the number of As they produce. Equality means one-to-one correspondence.



            And so we have,



            2 ?- proof(2).
            true.

            3 ?- proof(3).
            true.

            4 ?- proof(4).
            true.

            5 ?- proof(5).
            true.


            And so for any N it holds. Getting slower and slower. A general, unlimited query is trivial to write, but the slowdown seems exponential.






            share|improve this answer















            I don't understand the name of your predicate. It is a distraction anyway. The non-uniform naming of the variables is a distraction as well. Let's use some neutral, short one-syllable names to focus on the code itself in its clearest form:





            foo( H, [H | T], T).                          % 1st clause

            foo( X, [H | T], [H | R]) :- foo( X, T, R). % 2nd clause


            So it's the built-in select/3. Yay!..



            Now you ask about the query foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) and how does R gets its value set correctly. The main thing missing from your rundown is the renaming of variables when a matching clause is selected. The resolution of the query goes like this:



            |-  foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) ? { } 
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H1, [H1|T1], T1) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **FAIL** (2 = 1)
            **BACKTRACK to the last SELECT**
            %% SELECT -- 2nd clause, with rename
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { foo( X1, [H1|T1], [H1|R1]) = foo( 2, [1,2,3], R) }
            **OK**
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( X1, T1, R1) ?
            { X1=2, [H1|T1]=[1,2,3], [H1|R1]=R }
            %% REWRITE
            |- foo( 2, [2,3], R1) ? { R=[1|R1] }
            %% SELECT -- 1st clause, with rename
            |- ? { foo( H2, [H2|T2], T2) = foo( 2, [2,3], R1), R=[1|R1] }
            ** OK **
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { H2=2, T2=[3], T2=R1, R=[1|R1] }
            %% REWRITE
            |- ? { R=[1,3] }
            %% DONE


            The goals between |- and ? are the resolvent, the equations inside { } are the substitution. The knowledge base (KB) is implicitly to the left of |- in its entirety.



            On each step, the left-most goal in the resolvent is chosen, a clause with the matching head is chosen among the ones in the KB (while renaming all of the clause's variables in the consistent manner, such that no variable in the resolvent is used by the renamed clause, so there's no accidental variable capture), and the chosen goal is replaced in the resolvent with that clause's body, while the successful unification is added into the substitution. When the resolvent is empty, the query has been proven and what we see is the one successful and-branch in the whole and-or tree.





            This is how a machine could be doing it. The "rewrite" steps are introduced here for ease of human comprehension.



            So we can see here that the first successful clause selection results in the equation



                 R = [1 | R1     ]


            , and the second, --



                          R1 = [3]


            , which together entail



                 R = [1,        3]


            This gradual top-down instantiation / fleshing-out of lists is a very characteristic Prolog's way of doing things.





            In response to the bounty challenge, regarding functional dependency in the relation foo/3 (i.e. select/3): in foo(A,B,C), any two ground values for B and C uniquely determine the value of A (or its absence):



            2 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,2,1,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            3 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,3]).
            A = 1 ;
            false.

            4 ?- foo( A, [0,1,2,1,3], [0,1,2,4]).
            false.

            f ?- foo( A, [0,1,1], [0,1]).
            A = 1 ;
            A = 1 ;
            false.


            Attempt to disprove it by a counterargument:



            10 ?- dif(A1,A2), foo(A1,B,C), foo(A2,B,C).
            Action (h for help) ? abort
            % Execution Aborted


            Prolog fails to find a counterargument.



            Tying to see more closely what's going on, with iterative deepening:



            28 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), XX=[AA,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), 
            writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,[A],]
            [A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.

            29 ?- length(BB,NN), foo(AA,BB,CC), foo(AA2,BB,CC),
            XX=[AA,AA2,BB,CC], numbervars(XX), writeln(XX), (NN>3, !, fail).
            [A,A,[A],]
            [A,A,[A,B],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[A,A],[A]]
            [A,A,[B,A],[B]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,B],[A,B]]
            [A,A,[B,A,C],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[A,A,A],[A,A]]
            [A,A,[B,A,A],[B,A]]
            [A,A,[B,C,A],[B,C]]
            [A,A,[A,B,C,D],[B,C,D]]
            false.


            AA and AA2 are always instantiated to the same variable.



            There's nothing special about the number 3, so it is safe to conjecture by generalization that it will always be so, for any length tried.





            Another attempt at Prolog-wise proof:



            ground_list(LEN,L):-
            findall(N, between(1,LEN,N), NS),
            member(N,NS),
            length(L,N),
            maplist( A^member(A,NS), L).

            bcs(N, BCS):-
            bagof(B-C, A^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), BCS).

            as(N, AS):-
            bagof(A, B^C^(ground_list(N,B),ground_list(N,C),foo(A,B,C)), AS).

            proof(N):-
            as(N,AS), bcs(N,BCS),
            length(AS,N1), length(BCS, N2), N1 =:= N2.


            This compares the number of successful B-C combinations overall with the number of As they produce. Equality means one-to-one correspondence.



            And so we have,



            2 ?- proof(2).
            true.

            3 ?- proof(3).
            true.

            4 ?- proof(4).
            true.

            5 ?- proof(5).
            true.


            And so for any N it holds. Getting slower and slower. A general, unlimited query is trivial to write, but the slowdown seems exponential.







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            • Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:07











            • You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:50











            • made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

              – Will Ness
              Jan 11 at 23:09











            • Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:11











            • numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:35



















            • Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:07











            • You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

              – false
              Jan 11 at 22:50











            • made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

              – Will Ness
              Jan 11 at 23:09











            • Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:11











            • numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

              – false
              Jan 12 at 16:35

















            Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

            – false
            Jan 11 at 22:07





            Not sure why you produce a further definition with another name. The question was about the OP's definition.

            – false
            Jan 11 at 22:07













            You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

            – false
            Jan 11 at 22:50





            You give concrete examples, you could do better than proof by (single, ground) example

            – false
            Jan 11 at 22:50













            made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

            – Will Ness
            Jan 11 at 23:09





            made an edit. not much of a proof, but more than nothing I think...

            – Will Ness
            Jan 11 at 23:09













            Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

            – false
            Jan 12 at 16:11





            Your program is able to produce a counterexample, should there be one! (After an unspecified period, indeed). But you need to make the argument why it is able to do so! Looking at some examples does not provide this kind of certainty.

            – false
            Jan 12 at 16:11













            numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

            – false
            Jan 12 at 16:35





            numbervars is unsafe! Think of freeze(X, X = 1), numbervars(X,0,_) - SWI produces an error which is kind-of nice. Even better is to use a better toplevel

            – false
            Jan 12 at 16:35


















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