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For any passwords other than websites I log into regularly (such as Gmail, Facebook, etc.), I use apg to generate a random 20 character password. I then add that password and a username or email address to a text file I keep stored in an encrypted VeraCrypt volume (password for that exists solely in my head).



In light of the Collection #1 breach, I'm planning to go through and change some of my passwords, and I'm wondering about the benefits of using a password manager such as Encryptr or Gnome Keyring. I usually use Mint with Cinnamon.



Is storing passwords in an encrypted file considered adequate for most peoples' needs? Even if it is, are there other benefits to using a password manager?










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For any passwords other than websites I log into regularly (such as Gmail, Facebook, etc.), I use apg to generate a random 20 character password. I then add that password and a username or email address to a text file I keep stored in an encrypted VeraCrypt volume (password for that exists solely in my head).



In light of the Collection #1 breach, I'm planning to go through and change some of my passwords, and I'm wondering about the benefits of using a password manager such as Encryptr or Gnome Keyring. I usually use Mint with Cinnamon.



Is storing passwords in an encrypted file considered adequate for most peoples' needs? Even if it is, are there other benefits to using a password manager?










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For any passwords other than websites I log into regularly (such as Gmail, Facebook, etc.), I use apg to generate a random 20 character password. I then add that password and a username or email address to a text file I keep stored in an encrypted VeraCrypt volume (password for that exists solely in my head).



In light of the Collection #1 breach, I'm planning to go through and change some of my passwords, and I'm wondering about the benefits of using a password manager such as Encryptr or Gnome Keyring. I usually use Mint with Cinnamon.



Is storing passwords in an encrypted file considered adequate for most peoples' needs? Even if it is, are there other benefits to using a password manager?










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For any passwords other than websites I log into regularly (such as Gmail, Facebook, etc.), I use apg to generate a random 20 character password. I then add that password and a username or email address to a text file I keep stored in an encrypted VeraCrypt volume (password for that exists solely in my head).



In light of the Collection #1 breach, I'm planning to go through and change some of my passwords, and I'm wondering about the benefits of using a password manager such as Encryptr or Gnome Keyring. I usually use Mint with Cinnamon.



Is storing passwords in an encrypted file considered adequate for most peoples' needs? Even if it is, are there other benefits to using a password manager?







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    maybe this should be on Information Security

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    – CMB
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    maybe this should be on Information Security

    – phuclv
    14 hours ago











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    – CMB
    14 hours ago











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maybe this should be on Information Security

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maybe this should be on Information Security

– phuclv
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@phuclv Thanks. I couldn't decide where to post this. I didn't know there was a sub site for information security.

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Having an encrypted text file with passwords in it is certainly better then having common/reused passwords or an unencrypted file.



A good password manager is, however, incrementally better, in the following ways (off the top of my head)




  • Better memory management - it can prevent passwords being left in computer memory which can be snaffled by other processes/users.

  • It only exposes the needed password, not all of them.

  • (Sometimes) Browser integration makes life easier

  • Many eyes - a program designed specifically for password management, and audited, likely has stronger processes in place to ensure good hygene.

  • Cross-platform compatibility, arguably easier to merge records and manage in a cloud environment/from multiple locations.


You might want to look at Keepass and other variants, and the kdbx format. (And how well its supported). I use that under Linux (I assume you use linux as you mention APG)






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    With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

    – Máté Juhász
    12 hours ago






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    Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

    – Ian Kemp
    10 hours ago






  • 6





    Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

    – Fabio Turati
    8 hours ago






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    My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

    – Deruijter
    3 hours ago






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    Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

    – user3067860
    49 mins ago











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Having an encrypted text file with passwords in it is certainly better then having common/reused passwords or an unencrypted file.



A good password manager is, however, incrementally better, in the following ways (off the top of my head)




  • Better memory management - it can prevent passwords being left in computer memory which can be snaffled by other processes/users.

  • It only exposes the needed password, not all of them.

  • (Sometimes) Browser integration makes life easier

  • Many eyes - a program designed specifically for password management, and audited, likely has stronger processes in place to ensure good hygene.

  • Cross-platform compatibility, arguably easier to merge records and manage in a cloud environment/from multiple locations.


You might want to look at Keepass and other variants, and the kdbx format. (And how well its supported). I use that under Linux (I assume you use linux as you mention APG)






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  • 7





    With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

    – Máté Juhász
    12 hours ago






  • 4





    Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

    – Ian Kemp
    10 hours ago






  • 6





    Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

    – Fabio Turati
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

    – Deruijter
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

    – user3067860
    49 mins ago
















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Having an encrypted text file with passwords in it is certainly better then having common/reused passwords or an unencrypted file.



A good password manager is, however, incrementally better, in the following ways (off the top of my head)




  • Better memory management - it can prevent passwords being left in computer memory which can be snaffled by other processes/users.

  • It only exposes the needed password, not all of them.

  • (Sometimes) Browser integration makes life easier

  • Many eyes - a program designed specifically for password management, and audited, likely has stronger processes in place to ensure good hygene.

  • Cross-platform compatibility, arguably easier to merge records and manage in a cloud environment/from multiple locations.


You might want to look at Keepass and other variants, and the kdbx format. (And how well its supported). I use that under Linux (I assume you use linux as you mention APG)






share|improve this answer



















  • 7





    With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

    – Máté Juhász
    12 hours ago






  • 4





    Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

    – Ian Kemp
    10 hours ago






  • 6





    Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

    – Fabio Turati
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

    – Deruijter
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

    – user3067860
    49 mins ago














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Having an encrypted text file with passwords in it is certainly better then having common/reused passwords or an unencrypted file.



A good password manager is, however, incrementally better, in the following ways (off the top of my head)




  • Better memory management - it can prevent passwords being left in computer memory which can be snaffled by other processes/users.

  • It only exposes the needed password, not all of them.

  • (Sometimes) Browser integration makes life easier

  • Many eyes - a program designed specifically for password management, and audited, likely has stronger processes in place to ensure good hygene.

  • Cross-platform compatibility, arguably easier to merge records and manage in a cloud environment/from multiple locations.


You might want to look at Keepass and other variants, and the kdbx format. (And how well its supported). I use that under Linux (I assume you use linux as you mention APG)






share|improve this answer













Having an encrypted text file with passwords in it is certainly better then having common/reused passwords or an unencrypted file.



A good password manager is, however, incrementally better, in the following ways (off the top of my head)




  • Better memory management - it can prevent passwords being left in computer memory which can be snaffled by other processes/users.

  • It only exposes the needed password, not all of them.

  • (Sometimes) Browser integration makes life easier

  • Many eyes - a program designed specifically for password management, and audited, likely has stronger processes in place to ensure good hygene.

  • Cross-platform compatibility, arguably easier to merge records and manage in a cloud environment/from multiple locations.


You might want to look at Keepass and other variants, and the kdbx format. (And how well its supported). I use that under Linux (I assume you use linux as you mention APG)







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  • 7





    With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

    – Máté Juhász
    12 hours ago






  • 4





    Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

    – Ian Kemp
    10 hours ago






  • 6





    Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

    – Fabio Turati
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

    – Deruijter
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

    – user3067860
    49 mins ago














  • 7





    With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

    – Máté Juhász
    12 hours ago






  • 4





    Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

    – Ian Kemp
    10 hours ago






  • 6





    Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

    – Fabio Turati
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

    – Deruijter
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

    – user3067860
    49 mins ago








7




7





With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

– Máté Juhász
12 hours ago





With a password manager you can even copy passwords without showing them on the screen, so people around you won't even see that one password.

– Máté Juhász
12 hours ago




4




4





Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

– Ian Kemp
10 hours ago





Not to mention that a password manager can autogenerate very strong, random passwords, using a variety of algorithms.

– Ian Kemp
10 hours ago




6




6





Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

– Fabio Turati
8 hours ago





Browser integration does not only make life easier; it's also a great way to avoid phishing. A website can fool a user, but definitely not the browser and an extension. If you try to log into a site and password autocompletion doesn't kick in, it's a red flag!

– Fabio Turati
8 hours ago




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My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

– Deruijter
3 hours ago





My worry with password managers is that they seem a very likely target for a hack. Whereas the secured file stored locally on my machine or usb-drive are not (assumptions on my part).

– Deruijter
3 hours ago




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Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

– user3067860
49 mins ago





Password manager can provide an automatic close and lock after a certain length of time, if you walk away and forget to close your encrypted text file it is unlikely to close itself.

– user3067860
49 mins ago


















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